Misty_00
Hi! I am currently crate training my puppy, and while the crate that I am using now is great (we were given it as a hand-me-down), I am starting to see that my pup will most likely outgrow it in the next 3 weeks. He is a purebred Doberman, and I am starting to shop for crates online. Can anyone reccomend any brands (that are durable) or sizes that would be good for this breed? Online, crates are listed by inches (not small, med, or large), so I am trying to decipher the sizes to make sure that I don't purchase one that is not too small or too big.
Answer
HI, We crate trained our dog and was able to buy at the petstore one that has an expansion capability. While she was growing we could adjust her kennel so she didn't have too much room and could be trained. If it is too big then they will go potty in it and not learn how to use the crate beneficially. See if your local store has one that can be adjusted for her size or buy one that will be for her recommended size and block it off inside to allow for turnaround room and keep moving the divider as your pup grows!
Here is some more specific info on doberman pinscher and crate training that is recommended:
The size of crate for Dobermans varies depending on the size of the dog (males are usually bigger). We recommend no smaller than 24W x 26"H x 32"L (or 400 size) for females and 28-30"W by 30-32"H x 36"L (or 500 size) for males.
With respect to bedding, I recommend putting an old, single layer blanket (nothing with stuffing) in the crate for your puppy. Some pups chew their bedding and an old blanket is worth less than the new $55.00 designer version of a pet bed. More often than not your puppy will rearrange the blanket into his own, comfy bed, so don't worry about folding it. I do not recommend placing ticking alarm clocks or hot water bottles in the crate. To help your new puppy feel a little more secure I recommend an old stuffed teddy bear but be sure that any button eyes and nose are removed or re-stitched securely.
I do not recommend feeding your puppy in the crate unsupervised. As well, do not provide water in the crate, as food and water will cause the puppy to have go potty. You can leave the pup with a safe toy or two and perhaps a doggy biscuit. Do not put your Doberman in the crate wearing a collar, or put rawhide, pig's ears or squeaky toys inside. Remember, you want him to be safe.
For how many hours and until what age are Dobermans crated?
When you first get your new puppy he will be 8-12 weeks of age. At this age it is advisable to have your pup in the crate for no longer than about three hours before letting him out to relieve himself, have a little play and a cuddle. Once your pup reaches 12-16 weeks, about four hours is the longest you will want to crate him. It is not advisable to leave your dog in his crate for longer than 4 hours regardless of age once your get past the 16 week mark. Should you find you must leave your pup for longer than this, then be kind and have a neighbor or relative come in and let your puppy out and spend a little time with him.
There is no exact age when your pup will miraculously be able to be left loose in the house unsupervised. Each dog is different. Personally, I would continue with your crate routine until your dog is six months old. At this time you can "test" the dog. Leave him out for very short periods of time when you are preoccupied. Watch what he does. Then increase the time spent out until he stays out while you are sleeping. If he shows himself trustworthy, then you can begin to "test" him when you go out. Only ten minutes at first. Then an hour, then two or three. Do not rush to getting your dog "crate-free" as bad habits can still be formed.
Hope this is what you were looking for and best of luck to you and your new pup!
HI, We crate trained our dog and was able to buy at the petstore one that has an expansion capability. While she was growing we could adjust her kennel so she didn't have too much room and could be trained. If it is too big then they will go potty in it and not learn how to use the crate beneficially. See if your local store has one that can be adjusted for her size or buy one that will be for her recommended size and block it off inside to allow for turnaround room and keep moving the divider as your pup grows!
Here is some more specific info on doberman pinscher and crate training that is recommended:
The size of crate for Dobermans varies depending on the size of the dog (males are usually bigger). We recommend no smaller than 24W x 26"H x 32"L (or 400 size) for females and 28-30"W by 30-32"H x 36"L (or 500 size) for males.
With respect to bedding, I recommend putting an old, single layer blanket (nothing with stuffing) in the crate for your puppy. Some pups chew their bedding and an old blanket is worth less than the new $55.00 designer version of a pet bed. More often than not your puppy will rearrange the blanket into his own, comfy bed, so don't worry about folding it. I do not recommend placing ticking alarm clocks or hot water bottles in the crate. To help your new puppy feel a little more secure I recommend an old stuffed teddy bear but be sure that any button eyes and nose are removed or re-stitched securely.
I do not recommend feeding your puppy in the crate unsupervised. As well, do not provide water in the crate, as food and water will cause the puppy to have go potty. You can leave the pup with a safe toy or two and perhaps a doggy biscuit. Do not put your Doberman in the crate wearing a collar, or put rawhide, pig's ears or squeaky toys inside. Remember, you want him to be safe.
For how many hours and until what age are Dobermans crated?
When you first get your new puppy he will be 8-12 weeks of age. At this age it is advisable to have your pup in the crate for no longer than about three hours before letting him out to relieve himself, have a little play and a cuddle. Once your pup reaches 12-16 weeks, about four hours is the longest you will want to crate him. It is not advisable to leave your dog in his crate for longer than 4 hours regardless of age once your get past the 16 week mark. Should you find you must leave your pup for longer than this, then be kind and have a neighbor or relative come in and let your puppy out and spend a little time with him.
There is no exact age when your pup will miraculously be able to be left loose in the house unsupervised. Each dog is different. Personally, I would continue with your crate routine until your dog is six months old. At this time you can "test" the dog. Leave him out for very short periods of time when you are preoccupied. Watch what he does. Then increase the time spent out until he stays out while you are sleeping. If he shows himself trustworthy, then you can begin to "test" him when you go out. Only ten minutes at first. Then an hour, then two or three. Do not rush to getting your dog "crate-free" as bad habits can still be formed.
Hope this is what you were looking for and best of luck to you and your new pup!
Deciphering how large of a dog a crate can hold?
Kristin B
http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=8056010
I'm looking to purchase a wire crate instead of a plastic Pet Porter type because my dog likes to break the doors on them. I was instructed that wire crates are less restricting, and much sturdier.
I am purchasing from Wal-Mart because that's the only local store that carries decently priced crates, and I'm not prepared to pay shipping on a kennel that is going to cost a fortune to ship to Alaska.
How large of a dog would you say a kennel this size would hold? It's 36x24x27
They show a larger dog in the kennel, but the 36 inches seems small, a bit misleading I guess? And they don't sell an extra large (not sure why)...
Thoughts?
American Pit Bull Terrier
36Lx24Wx27H are the correct measurements, and he is certainly not 3 feet long and I haven't ever measured his height.
Answer
Here are the typical sizes and recommendations:
Varikennel #100 21"x16"x15"H,
Actual CrateWeight: 7 Lb
Cats, Toy Poodles, Yorkshire Terriers, Chihuahuas, Shih Tzus
Varikennel #200 27"x20"x19"H
Actual Crate Weight: 15 Lb
Beagles, Shelties, Min. Poodles, Cockers, Lhasa Apsos
Varikennel #300 32"x22"x23"H
Actual Crate Weight: 18 Lb
Springers, Border Collies, Bull Dogs
Varikennel #400 36"x24"x26"H
Actual Crate Weight: 23 Lb
Boxers, Dalmatians, Collies, Airdales, Setters, Aust. Shepherds, Dobermans
Varikennel #500 40"x27"x30"H
Actual Crate Weight: 27 Lb
Afghans, Retrievers, Pointers, Shepherds, Rottweilers
Varikennel #700 48"x32"x35"H
Actual Crate Weight: 44 Lb
Irish Wolfhounds, Newfoundlands, St. Bernards, Mastiffs, Greyhounds
Here are the typical sizes and recommendations:
Varikennel #100 21"x16"x15"H,
Actual CrateWeight: 7 Lb
Cats, Toy Poodles, Yorkshire Terriers, Chihuahuas, Shih Tzus
Varikennel #200 27"x20"x19"H
Actual Crate Weight: 15 Lb
Beagles, Shelties, Min. Poodles, Cockers, Lhasa Apsos
Varikennel #300 32"x22"x23"H
Actual Crate Weight: 18 Lb
Springers, Border Collies, Bull Dogs
Varikennel #400 36"x24"x26"H
Actual Crate Weight: 23 Lb
Boxers, Dalmatians, Collies, Airdales, Setters, Aust. Shepherds, Dobermans
Varikennel #500 40"x27"x30"H
Actual Crate Weight: 27 Lb
Afghans, Retrievers, Pointers, Shepherds, Rottweilers
Varikennel #700 48"x32"x35"H
Actual Crate Weight: 44 Lb
Irish Wolfhounds, Newfoundlands, St. Bernards, Mastiffs, Greyhounds
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