Karen
Long story bear with me.
My best friend has a 1 year old boxer who is rambunctious. The dog likes to jump on people mainly to play and lick you but she can actually knock you down. Its difficult to walk her since she loves to run fast instead of walking. She doesn't bite but since she is a big boxer her playfulness comes across to a stranger as an attack. My friend knew that it was best to get her trained. She hired this guy and his plan to train her was do a 2 week boarding program that is followed up with private lessons her house. Now when she came back the dog seemed different. The follow up private lesson worked well and the dog obeyed command of sit and no. But she still had the habit of jumping up on people. She called the trainer and he said that she needed to be firm. He took her again for another boarding training this time for one week. When he brought her back I saw the dog a little skinnier and a little mopey. I sensed something off and more so that dog seemed aggressive when at the sound of loud voices. Especially if the voice is of a man. Even the sight of other dogs she started barking and jumping around more that usual.
I was at my friends house feeding the dog because my friend was running late and the trainer was coming over to check on progress and to determine if she needed more training. When the trainer rang the door bell the dog went towards the door ( door has glass window top to bottom) I don't know if saw him or smelled him and she just jumped towards the door very aggressively and broke one of the windows and started barking like crazy Almost as if she was going to attack him. The trainer calmed her down and spoke to her sternly and she sunk down.
Now I have never seem this very odd to me. I relayed this story to a coworker and he said it sounded like he might be training her to be in a dog fights. I told my friend I was concerned about her dog. And we looked for signs of physical abuse but haven't seen anything. Its just her behavior is odd. Any one have a clue? Is this type of training program normal even?
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I answered a question about sending dogs away to be trained. And thank you for proving my point.
Most "professional" trainers don't have time to properly train your dogs with positive methods, and then proof them with corrections...so they skip the positive teaching phase and jump right into Koehler style yank and crank corrections training. SO what you end up with is a dog who comes home fearful, hand shy, or fear aggressive.
As far as her being used in dog fights, your friend is an idiot. What the heck does a dog being scared of the guy have to do with dog fights? Are there you know...100 bite marks on her? If not, what the heck makes her think the dog has been fought? Another example of somebody talking and not making any sense....
So now that that stupidity is out of the way, lol. The problem here is, this dog has had this guy herk and jerk her around and force her through a makeshift boot camp style obedience program that she's too weak minded to handle. It may have worked on a bunch of 2-5 year old working dogs destined to be Military Working Dogs, but that kind of harsh training on a bubbly boxer was obviously too much. NEVER send your dog off to be trained. No good trainer in the planet accepts fly ins or even drive ins to train. They'll work with you and show you how to work your dog along. You may be able to pay for group classes and get taught things step by step, or even better, personal lessons and learn new things to teach your dog and old problems to work up on every week. No real trainer will train your dog for you. I may pre-train a dog and sell it, but guess what, you're going to have to learn how to handle it, and if at all possible come here for a few days and walk through the training and timing of different things.
The dog technically hasn't been abused, but your friend's pockets have been...she's been duped by Hank & Hals You Bring 'em and We'll String 'em!!!
I answered a question about sending dogs away to be trained. And thank you for proving my point.
Most "professional" trainers don't have time to properly train your dogs with positive methods, and then proof them with corrections...so they skip the positive teaching phase and jump right into Koehler style yank and crank corrections training. SO what you end up with is a dog who comes home fearful, hand shy, or fear aggressive.
As far as her being used in dog fights, your friend is an idiot. What the heck does a dog being scared of the guy have to do with dog fights? Are there you know...100 bite marks on her? If not, what the heck makes her think the dog has been fought? Another example of somebody talking and not making any sense....
So now that that stupidity is out of the way, lol. The problem here is, this dog has had this guy herk and jerk her around and force her through a makeshift boot camp style obedience program that she's too weak minded to handle. It may have worked on a bunch of 2-5 year old working dogs destined to be Military Working Dogs, but that kind of harsh training on a bubbly boxer was obviously too much. NEVER send your dog off to be trained. No good trainer in the planet accepts fly ins or even drive ins to train. They'll work with you and show you how to work your dog along. You may be able to pay for group classes and get taught things step by step, or even better, personal lessons and learn new things to teach your dog and old problems to work up on every week. No real trainer will train your dog for you. I may pre-train a dog and sell it, but guess what, you're going to have to learn how to handle it, and if at all possible come here for a few days and walk through the training and timing of different things.
The dog technically hasn't been abused, but your friend's pockets have been...she's been duped by Hank & Hals You Bring 'em and We'll String 'em!!!
Mitt Romney used to put his dog in a carrier on top of his car for long trips?
Pedro
It was a full size dog, but he said it was happy up on top of the car for a 12 hour trip. Does this make sense if the carrier is securely attached, or is it a bad idea?
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With the dog on the roof, the luggage must have been INSIDE the station wagon. Why would you prioritize that way? Because you knew from prior experience that your dog was a poor traveler that would vomit or have diarrhea. So if you cared about your dog, you would leave it home with a petsitter, friend, or family member, or else board it - unless you were too cheap to put your dog's comfort ahead of the padding in your wallet.
In addition to the discomfort of the wind rushing past, dehydrating and chilling the dog, who would be sufficiently confident that the straps would hold? If a suitcase falls off the roof rack, it's a problem and a potential traffic hazard; if the crate falls off, it's a dead or seriously injured panicked dog and a far more serious hazard to other drivers.
When this incident was in the news the first time, Romney supporters pointed to it as proof that he is unflappable and resourceful. What it proves to me is that he lacks the ability to empathize with the suffering of others, and puts his own desires first.
With the dog on the roof, the luggage must have been INSIDE the station wagon. Why would you prioritize that way? Because you knew from prior experience that your dog was a poor traveler that would vomit or have diarrhea. So if you cared about your dog, you would leave it home with a petsitter, friend, or family member, or else board it - unless you were too cheap to put your dog's comfort ahead of the padding in your wallet.
In addition to the discomfort of the wind rushing past, dehydrating and chilling the dog, who would be sufficiently confident that the straps would hold? If a suitcase falls off the roof rack, it's a problem and a potential traffic hazard; if the crate falls off, it's a dead or seriously injured panicked dog and a far more serious hazard to other drivers.
When this incident was in the news the first time, Romney supporters pointed to it as proof that he is unflappable and resourceful. What it proves to me is that he lacks the ability to empathize with the suffering of others, and puts his own desires first.
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