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Why would two dogs fight when they live together?
I have a 9 month old Shepherd/Collie mix who is spayed. I've had her for 6.5 months. I recently rescued a Golden Retriever/Pyrenees mix directly from a neglect case - he's four and neutered. Actually from my parents. We've had him for maybe three weeks. They get along great and play together all the time. They are always together. This morning they broke out into a fight in the house! I don't know what happened. Usually there is growling over food or a bone, but none of that was around them. What happened? I try to leave them out of their crates while we are gone, but not more than 2 hours at a time. Now I'm afraid to leave them out alone if they are going to fight. I don't need to come home to bloody dogs! What could have gone wrong this morning?
He has never played with toys so he doesn't have a big interest in them, but he is learning. There was a toy where they were playing and got into the fight. I feed them next to their crates in a different room. It was a loud fight, no blood, but they were really going at each other. I broke them apart and the young one lunged for one more attack.
Answer
I have 2 pyrs and an Aussie mix. Your dogs have the potential for getting along just great.
It's good that your Shep/Col is female and your Golden/Pyr is male. You have less fighting between a male/female pair than a same sex pair.
You have to be a strong Alpha Pack Leader.
You have to understand that these dogs need to establish their place in the pack.
A 4 year old male will assume he should be the alpha dog.
A 9 month old dog is at the right age to challenge any older dog to become alpha.
Before you got the 4 year old, your female was the ONLY dog, so she was the alpha dog. Now her right to be alpha is challenged by his age and his size. He's bound to be considerably bigger than she is.
SO... like it or not, some fighting will go on to establish who's THE alpha dog. One is alpha male; one is alpha female. One must be the alpha dog and she was and doesn't want to lose her position, but he wants it also.
I have trouble at times with my two males fighting, and have found that, while I don't always recognize the infraction, my Aussie (the omega dog) sometimes does SOMETHING wrong and my male pyr attacks him. You may have believe theere was no reason, but you are wrong. You just don't know what the reason for the fight was.
Pyrs have a whole set of rules. She was there first, so she sees herself as alpha. He's pyr, and she may have done something he sees as an "infraction" of pyr rules.
I stop fights inside the house as it can damage the home. Also, neither of my boys will back down, even though my male pyr is the alpha male. When I pull my pyr off my Aussie, as I pull him up, I find the Aussie hanging from his neck where he's got a bite on the pyr and won't let go. So it takes two of us to separate these boys.
As Pack Leader, you can intervene. It's your right. But, if they haven't determined who is alpha, then your intervention can confuse and delay that determination being made.
IF you already see that one is alpha, then there was simply an infraction done by the one who's not alpha and the alpha was punishing the other for the infraction.
IF you already KNOW one is alpha, then:
1) alpha dog is fed first
2) alpha dog is allowed out the door first
3) alpha dog is allowed in the door first
4) alpha dog is given treats first
etc. etc. etc.
Got it? You can't treat one as alpha right now and the other as alpha later today. If you do that, you confuse the issue. And for your dogs to be happy ONE must be alpha and each must know it's place in the pack.
Go to these websites and read up on and learn how to be Pack Leader.
Join a Pyr group. You can get some good feedback from other owners of rescued dogs, and pyrs, and several also have Aussie's.
Good luck with your challenge. @->--
p.s. I hope you understand that all dogs do play fight. It's not a serious fight unless one is baring it's teeth and snarling with an angry look on it's face.
If their fight was actually serious, then don't leave them loose in the home alone when you're gone till they settle who's alpha. It may take some time, so you have to keep an eye on things. Learn what the problem is by watching carefully and trying to think like a dog.
Your added details:
They don't want to harm each other. That was an alpha fight.
You can choose to treat her as alpha, becasue she was, but by his size, he might take it away from her.
My dogs play "king of the hill" The pyr who can consistently knock the other one down became the alpha... and that was my girl way back ... and now they are evenly matched... but she remains alpha.
I have 2 pyrs and an Aussie mix. Your dogs have the potential for getting along just great.
It's good that your Shep/Col is female and your Golden/Pyr is male. You have less fighting between a male/female pair than a same sex pair.
You have to be a strong Alpha Pack Leader.
You have to understand that these dogs need to establish their place in the pack.
A 4 year old male will assume he should be the alpha dog.
A 9 month old dog is at the right age to challenge any older dog to become alpha.
Before you got the 4 year old, your female was the ONLY dog, so she was the alpha dog. Now her right to be alpha is challenged by his age and his size. He's bound to be considerably bigger than she is.
SO... like it or not, some fighting will go on to establish who's THE alpha dog. One is alpha male; one is alpha female. One must be the alpha dog and she was and doesn't want to lose her position, but he wants it also.
I have trouble at times with my two males fighting, and have found that, while I don't always recognize the infraction, my Aussie (the omega dog) sometimes does SOMETHING wrong and my male pyr attacks him. You may have believe theere was no reason, but you are wrong. You just don't know what the reason for the fight was.
Pyrs have a whole set of rules. She was there first, so she sees herself as alpha. He's pyr, and she may have done something he sees as an "infraction" of pyr rules.
I stop fights inside the house as it can damage the home. Also, neither of my boys will back down, even though my male pyr is the alpha male. When I pull my pyr off my Aussie, as I pull him up, I find the Aussie hanging from his neck where he's got a bite on the pyr and won't let go. So it takes two of us to separate these boys.
As Pack Leader, you can intervene. It's your right. But, if they haven't determined who is alpha, then your intervention can confuse and delay that determination being made.
IF you already see that one is alpha, then there was simply an infraction done by the one who's not alpha and the alpha was punishing the other for the infraction.
IF you already KNOW one is alpha, then:
1) alpha dog is fed first
2) alpha dog is allowed out the door first
3) alpha dog is allowed in the door first
4) alpha dog is given treats first
etc. etc. etc.
Got it? You can't treat one as alpha right now and the other as alpha later today. If you do that, you confuse the issue. And for your dogs to be happy ONE must be alpha and each must know it's place in the pack.
Go to these websites and read up on and learn how to be Pack Leader.
Join a Pyr group. You can get some good feedback from other owners of rescued dogs, and pyrs, and several also have Aussie's.
Good luck with your challenge. @->--
p.s. I hope you understand that all dogs do play fight. It's not a serious fight unless one is baring it's teeth and snarling with an angry look on it's face.
If their fight was actually serious, then don't leave them loose in the home alone when you're gone till they settle who's alpha. It may take some time, so you have to keep an eye on things. Learn what the problem is by watching carefully and trying to think like a dog.
Your added details:
They don't want to harm each other. That was an alpha fight.
You can choose to treat her as alpha, becasue she was, but by his size, he might take it away from her.
My dogs play "king of the hill" The pyr who can consistently knock the other one down became the alpha... and that was my girl way back ... and now they are evenly matched... but she remains alpha.
housetraing dogs?
wendinella
Answer
Hi,
Housetraining is a MUST. You want to have a polite dog that knows the rules in your house and does not cause you the trouble of cleaning a mess all the time (it's not fun especially if you have the carpets;)).
Dogs are very clean animals and they do not like to make a mess in their dens in the wild and they are not happy to have a mess around them in the house either. As a dog owner it is your responsibility to teach your pooch about the basic rules in the house. Housebreaking (or housetraining) when done properly will take about a week (depending on an owner's consistency, patience, persistance, routine, etc.).
I've known people who never took the time (which is not that long at all) to housetrain their dogs and it caused a lot of frustration in the owners later on...The best thing is to housetrain your dog as soon as you get him/her.
Here are a few things that might be helpful to know about housetraining:
1. Set a schedule for your dog. Dogs LOVE to have a routine. Feed your puppy the same time every day. Don't give him the water before he goes to sleep at night.
2. Make sure you're feeding your pup the highest quality food. Premium foods may be more expensive, but it is much more digestable than grocery store brands. The puppy eats less and eliminates less often which make the housebreaking process much easier. You will also have a healthier dog.
3. The second puppy wakes up in the morning take him on a leash outside to the area you have chose to be his toilet. Keep your clothes ready and do not fool around getting him outside. If you wait until you have your coffee and breakfast to take him outside, you are forcing him to lose control of himself.
4. Make it clear that this walk is pure business, not fun and pleasure. You can give a command like "Do your business". Keep the voice low and don't excite your dog - it's a serious business. The second your puppy starts to eliminate - PRAISE, PRAISE, PRAISE!:) After he's done eliminating, take him away from the elimination area and have a playtime as a reward.
5. It is easier and more eficient to praise your dog for going in one spot than to punish him for going in thousand different spots.
I always take my dog to the same spot right at the side of my house and when she's done she gets her walk as a reward. It is easier to pick everything up and usually I do not have to pick anything up during a walk.
6. Sensitize yourself to your dog's body language. Your puppy needs to eliminate:
- after a meal
- after a nap
- after a play session
- if he begins circling and sniffing
7. Do not leave your puppy alone in the house where you cannot see him. If you're not actively playing with him, put him in his crate (but not for longer than 4 hours!).
8. A crate should never be used as punishment. It is supposed to be your dog's safe place , his den and by using a crate as a punishment you'll make your dog to have a negative connotation with his crate. Crate is VERY useful in teaching your puppy the housebreaking rules. Dogs do not like to mess their dens and want to keep it clean.
9. Never yell at your dog. If you catch your puppy in the ACT of eliminating (which you will if he's leashed to your belt), say "NO" in a low, stern voice and run him outside. There is no need to yell at the puppy - it would make him voice shy.
10. Give him an opportunity to finish his job. When he does, PRAISE him and reward him (for example with a play session).
11. Return to the house. Don't let your pup see you clean up the mess. Clean the mess with a commercial odor neutralizer. It's important that your puppy cannot smell those spots. The smell of the places where he eliminated before will only encourage him to do it again there. It is the dogs' instinct and he's not trying to be mallicious by eliminating in the house where he can still smell the old eliminating areas.
12. Remember - it is NEVER to late to teach your dog about eliminating in the proper areas and with patience and consistency you can do it pretty quickly!
Alex
Source(s):
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?...
http://www.cuhumane.org/topics/housebr.h...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/woof/tips/tip_13...
Hi,
Housetraining is a MUST. You want to have a polite dog that knows the rules in your house and does not cause you the trouble of cleaning a mess all the time (it's not fun especially if you have the carpets;)).
Dogs are very clean animals and they do not like to make a mess in their dens in the wild and they are not happy to have a mess around them in the house either. As a dog owner it is your responsibility to teach your pooch about the basic rules in the house. Housebreaking (or housetraining) when done properly will take about a week (depending on an owner's consistency, patience, persistance, routine, etc.).
I've known people who never took the time (which is not that long at all) to housetrain their dogs and it caused a lot of frustration in the owners later on...The best thing is to housetrain your dog as soon as you get him/her.
Here are a few things that might be helpful to know about housetraining:
1. Set a schedule for your dog. Dogs LOVE to have a routine. Feed your puppy the same time every day. Don't give him the water before he goes to sleep at night.
2. Make sure you're feeding your pup the highest quality food. Premium foods may be more expensive, but it is much more digestable than grocery store brands. The puppy eats less and eliminates less often which make the housebreaking process much easier. You will also have a healthier dog.
3. The second puppy wakes up in the morning take him on a leash outside to the area you have chose to be his toilet. Keep your clothes ready and do not fool around getting him outside. If you wait until you have your coffee and breakfast to take him outside, you are forcing him to lose control of himself.
4. Make it clear that this walk is pure business, not fun and pleasure. You can give a command like "Do your business". Keep the voice low and don't excite your dog - it's a serious business. The second your puppy starts to eliminate - PRAISE, PRAISE, PRAISE!:) After he's done eliminating, take him away from the elimination area and have a playtime as a reward.
5. It is easier and more eficient to praise your dog for going in one spot than to punish him for going in thousand different spots.
I always take my dog to the same spot right at the side of my house and when she's done she gets her walk as a reward. It is easier to pick everything up and usually I do not have to pick anything up during a walk.
6. Sensitize yourself to your dog's body language. Your puppy needs to eliminate:
- after a meal
- after a nap
- after a play session
- if he begins circling and sniffing
7. Do not leave your puppy alone in the house where you cannot see him. If you're not actively playing with him, put him in his crate (but not for longer than 4 hours!).
8. A crate should never be used as punishment. It is supposed to be your dog's safe place , his den and by using a crate as a punishment you'll make your dog to have a negative connotation with his crate. Crate is VERY useful in teaching your puppy the housebreaking rules. Dogs do not like to mess their dens and want to keep it clean.
9. Never yell at your dog. If you catch your puppy in the ACT of eliminating (which you will if he's leashed to your belt), say "NO" in a low, stern voice and run him outside. There is no need to yell at the puppy - it would make him voice shy.
10. Give him an opportunity to finish his job. When he does, PRAISE him and reward him (for example with a play session).
11. Return to the house. Don't let your pup see you clean up the mess. Clean the mess with a commercial odor neutralizer. It's important that your puppy cannot smell those spots. The smell of the places where he eliminated before will only encourage him to do it again there. It is the dogs' instinct and he's not trying to be mallicious by eliminating in the house where he can still smell the old eliminating areas.
12. Remember - it is NEVER to late to teach your dog about eliminating in the proper areas and with patience and consistency you can do it pretty quickly!
Alex
Source(s):
http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?...
http://www.cuhumane.org/topics/housebr.h...
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/woof/tips/tip_13...
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