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I have a 10 week old Golden retriever and I am crate training her for the last week. I have her on a schedule, where I take her out in the middle of the night for toiler, then in the morning for toilet and play time, feed. ANd every 2 hours for toilet and play time. THen I let her stay in the house for bout an hour and half in the evening. I give her a treat when I put her in. Sometimes she cries and struggles to get out and other times she just goes asleep.
ALL my family are acting like I am an animal abuser.
My uncle said that its cruel.
He is not a professional dog trainer, but he has raised some dogs, and he also told me to put her nose in her poop is she goes in the house. He just gave me a big talk there about how he thinks its cruel, and I am really upset now.
I am not a kid by the way, sorry if this comes across as scatty, I'm writing in the heat of the moment.
My dog cant go out for a walk until late next week which is so terrible. She sometimes growls at me and tries to bite me when I tell her no she cant jump up on the couch, etc.
I am extremely stressed out. I am really trying hard to do everything right...
Do guide dog trainers crate train the pups?....
I would appreciate people's advice.
Hi, I can't walk her until then because she is due her final vaccination then. It adds to the stress not being able to walk her, and to release her energy properly!!
Answer
She shouldn't be in the crate that much time. That's not really what crate training is for. It's for having a place to put her when you can't supervise her. When you are there and can supervise her, she should be with you in the house, not in the crate. The actual toilet training can't happen unless she is in the house and has opportunities to make choices about whether or not to toilet indoors. The crate takes away that choice. It's function is to prevent her from making mistakes during periods when you can't supervise and catch the mistakes yourself. Without the opportunity to make the choice and learn from mistakes and successes, she can't actually learn anything from the process.
No, you don't put their nose in the poop if they go in the house. Once the poop hits the floor it is too late to do anything but clean it up and remind yourself to pay closer attention next time. Sticking their nose in it is more likely to teach them to hide the poop in the house than to not do it in the house. It takes a combination of two things: 1. prevent poop in the house BEFORE it happens 2. reinforce/reward poop that is deposited in the correct location. When either item is missing, toilet training is going to be a real struggle and may never be successful. People often forget step two, to praise the right place. When you correct a dog for toileting in the house, does he actually know it's for doing it in the house? Or does he maybe think it's for doing it at all? A lot of dogs think it's the second one and since they can't avoid pooping, they try to avoid you finding their poop by hiding it. A dog who is praised for pooping in a certain place has a much better idea that the issue is location not the act itself.
What you have to do is watch closely enough that you can catch her preparing to poop. Catch her circling, sniffing, squatting, or anything else she does when she's about to poop. Since you're taking her outside on leash to poop, you have a great opportunity to observe what she does leading up to it. That's what you watch for. When you see the signs, interrupt, rush her outside, let her go and praise like crazy. Even if she starts going inside the house, if you can get even one nugget outside, you still praise for that nugget.
Your pup is 10 weeks old. She should have had two vaccinations under her belt by now. You don't need to wait for the third. Go ahead and walk her. Don't let her sniff dogs she doesn't know. Don't let her sniff poop. Those are the real risks at her age. Remember that you walk around outside and track in all manner of poop remnants without even knowing it. You can't keep her totally away from contamination risks so what you do is manage her exposure to a reasonable level, just as I described above.
Do guide dog puppy raisers crate train? Of course. It's for more than toilet training. If a dog is ever injured or ill and has to be hospitalized or has to have crate rest, that is not the time for them to have their first experience being crated. They should already be entirely comfortable with the crate so that that doesn't add extra stress on top of the illness or injury. I had one dog with a bad muscle pull in his shoulder that had to be crate rested. Another had complications after surgery and almost died and had to be crate rested (restricted exercise). Neither was distressed by this because they were already crate trained.
You know your pup is most likely to go when she first wakes in the morning, about half an hour after a meal, and during or immediately following play. If you take her out to potty after play and she does her business, you should be pretty safe for a couple of hours to let her interact with the family in the house. She has more house manners to learn than just toilet training, including what to chew and not chew, what to jump on and not on, waiting politely at doors, greeting visitors politely, walking on a loose leash, etc.
She shouldn't be in the crate that much time. That's not really what crate training is for. It's for having a place to put her when you can't supervise her. When you are there and can supervise her, she should be with you in the house, not in the crate. The actual toilet training can't happen unless she is in the house and has opportunities to make choices about whether or not to toilet indoors. The crate takes away that choice. It's function is to prevent her from making mistakes during periods when you can't supervise and catch the mistakes yourself. Without the opportunity to make the choice and learn from mistakes and successes, she can't actually learn anything from the process.
No, you don't put their nose in the poop if they go in the house. Once the poop hits the floor it is too late to do anything but clean it up and remind yourself to pay closer attention next time. Sticking their nose in it is more likely to teach them to hide the poop in the house than to not do it in the house. It takes a combination of two things: 1. prevent poop in the house BEFORE it happens 2. reinforce/reward poop that is deposited in the correct location. When either item is missing, toilet training is going to be a real struggle and may never be successful. People often forget step two, to praise the right place. When you correct a dog for toileting in the house, does he actually know it's for doing it in the house? Or does he maybe think it's for doing it at all? A lot of dogs think it's the second one and since they can't avoid pooping, they try to avoid you finding their poop by hiding it. A dog who is praised for pooping in a certain place has a much better idea that the issue is location not the act itself.
What you have to do is watch closely enough that you can catch her preparing to poop. Catch her circling, sniffing, squatting, or anything else she does when she's about to poop. Since you're taking her outside on leash to poop, you have a great opportunity to observe what she does leading up to it. That's what you watch for. When you see the signs, interrupt, rush her outside, let her go and praise like crazy. Even if she starts going inside the house, if you can get even one nugget outside, you still praise for that nugget.
Your pup is 10 weeks old. She should have had two vaccinations under her belt by now. You don't need to wait for the third. Go ahead and walk her. Don't let her sniff dogs she doesn't know. Don't let her sniff poop. Those are the real risks at her age. Remember that you walk around outside and track in all manner of poop remnants without even knowing it. You can't keep her totally away from contamination risks so what you do is manage her exposure to a reasonable level, just as I described above.
Do guide dog puppy raisers crate train? Of course. It's for more than toilet training. If a dog is ever injured or ill and has to be hospitalized or has to have crate rest, that is not the time for them to have their first experience being crated. They should already be entirely comfortable with the crate so that that doesn't add extra stress on top of the illness or injury. I had one dog with a bad muscle pull in his shoulder that had to be crate rested. Another had complications after surgery and almost died and had to be crate rested (restricted exercise). Neither was distressed by this because they were already crate trained.
You know your pup is most likely to go when she first wakes in the morning, about half an hour after a meal, and during or immediately following play. If you take her out to potty after play and she does her business, you should be pretty safe for a couple of hours to let her interact with the family in the house. She has more house manners to learn than just toilet training, including what to chew and not chew, what to jump on and not on, waiting politely at doors, greeting visitors politely, walking on a loose leash, etc.
crate training my golden retriever?
Q. I've never had a puppy before so i'm kinda wondering what to expect.
I'm really curious on what to do at night. I know that the puppy will whine and cry. but i dont want it to go pee and poop everywhere while we're sleeping. I know that it will go in the house till fully potty trained but i was just wondering if there was a way to minimize it.
do i have to desensitize the puppy? or do i just stick it in the crate?
I'm really curious on what to do at night. I know that the puppy will whine and cry. but i dont want it to go pee and poop everywhere while we're sleeping. I know that it will go in the house till fully potty trained but i was just wondering if there was a way to minimize it.
do i have to desensitize the puppy? or do i just stick it in the crate?
Answer
Read this about crate training: http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/our_pets_for_life_program/dog_behavior_tip_sheets/crate_training.html
Follow those tips and you should not have any problems. This is how we crate trained both of our dogs, and we have no problems. Our older dog is rarely crated, as he is 100% house broken and does not chew, but our pup sleeps in his crate every night and eats every meal in it. He has had only one pee accident in the crate. He whines to wake us up at night to go outside.
Read this about crate training: http://www.hsus.org/pets/pet_care/our_pets_for_life_program/dog_behavior_tip_sheets/crate_training.html
Follow those tips and you should not have any problems. This is how we crate trained both of our dogs, and we have no problems. Our older dog is rarely crated, as he is 100% house broken and does not chew, but our pup sleeps in his crate every night and eats every meal in it. He has had only one pee accident in the crate. He whines to wake us up at night to go outside.
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